Atheist Age

David E Woodley says:

Hi Paul,

Nice to have a name.

Just further to your rebuttal, as it does seem to be, of my ‘honest’ account of our family and the product or ‘gadget’ you refer to.

You made comment: “it seems clear that with sales in the USA, Germany, the UK, Japan, Turkey and Canada the real beneficiaries are the Woodley family.”

I find this highly offensive when you do not have any insight into ‘my’ family. Hence the little background I gave. We are, well mostly bar 1 it seems, a very honest and truthful family. My dear mum would give away everything she may have so as to help others. She has always been like this. And myself and ‘most’ of my siblings have a very real affliction, you may call it. We cannot tell a lie. Maybe this is from a good catholic upbringing or I would say more a too higher sense of guilt if we don’t tell the truth.

This simple invention, made of silver, which was based on an Asian belief and an apparently known practice of strapping rice to your little finger to relieve snoring, was initially to help my Mother, as mentioned, and for no other financial gain.

After the most obvious positive results (that I personally can vouch for every time I now visit my parents in their modest 2 bedroom cottage and never again here the rumblings from the other side of the bedroom wall), my father was spending most of his time producing these little silver rings for friends and family at either ‘no charge’ or very little to cover silver costs.

It was more important to my parents, as it has always been, to help others than be too concerned about gaining wealth. My brother, who at the time worked as an apprentice jeweler with my father is a little different. But I have said enough on that matter.

My comment about Chinese Medicine/Therapy being around for thousands of years is a simply educated remark after what research I have done on web sites and speaking to natural therapists whilst I personally was trying to, as mentioned previously, ‘get my head around it’. And now also recently spending much time in Asia and noting that ‘massage therapy’ and the use of ‘pressure’ on various points of the body has long been used as a way of treating various ailments/conditions.

I have just now simply searched for some history and found a reference to support that this ‘style’ or ‘belief’, if you want to call it, has been around for over 2,000 years. Quote; “Acupressure / Acupoint Massage are an important component of Traditional Chinese Medicine. It was founded and developed by the Chinese over their many centuries of struggle against disease. More than two thousand years ago Acupressure / Acupoint Massage was already being applied in medical practice. ‘As stated in the Canon of Medicine, the oldest medical classic in existence in China, written in the Warring States Period (475-221 B.C.)’. ”

You do refer to ‘Acupuncture’ in your comments. There is a difference. That is the use of piercing the skin at pressure points. The ring does not work on this method. Maybe acupuncture has only been around for some few hundred years, I’m not sure.

In regards to your comment: “trialling the ring at Melbourne’s “Mind, Body Spirit” festival you have not in any way, shape or form, “truthfully” shown efficacy.”

The ‘efficacy’ was shown to us and to others by way of personal trials done by quite a few therapists and visitors to the trade showing and their returned comments of their personal experiences after wearing the ring that they had either paid for or was given to them complimentarily, for either a single night or over 2-3 during the run of the show.

One therapist came back to us after the first night and said her husband still snored but she thought not as loud. Two days later I walked past her exhibit on the way to the bathroom and she introduced me to her husband, who was there with her. He grabbed me and shook my hand and was ecstatic about the effect it had on his sleeping. His wife also made comment that it had improved dramatically since the first night.

Also after chatting to a mother of a 4 year old girl who apparently snores, and after I had placed a ring on her tiny finger to see if it would fit, the mother made comment that “It must be dong something because she never stands still like that.” Her daughter was apparently diagnosed with ADHD.

We had many many returned emails and comments from the general public as to the positive effects they found from this product. As it is a product based on a belief that is “Medically Unfounded’ as was the copper bracelet my dear grandfather and exWW2 ANZAC wore on his wrist as he found it did help his arthritis. Or the elastic pressure bands that an Indian friend from Mumbai had just this past week worn, on my suggestion, on a road trip in New Zealand with her parents and on a bus to and from Auckand to Whangerie, because she suffers severely from motion sickness. And commenting to me on her return, “I didn’t get sick once.” Is more than enough ‘efficacy’ for me.

More ‘efficacy’ than medical claims about headache tablets, or cough medicines or maybe whatever ‘proof’ that was given to allow fluoride to be put in our water that many of the ‘public’ are against. Or the ‘professional’ claims to support the war in the middle east or of the recession that apparently the ‘professional’ claims: “We had to have”. But enough about that.

Basically Paul being just a simple human being here, from a simple honest Australian family that had studied all the logical subjects for my schooling and who has lived now many years being ‘aware’ of what works and what doesn’t, for whatever it is, in life. I really think you and other sceptics should, as I had mentioned not be closed off to such alternatives.

When I had heard of this: “Crazy idea your Mother has.” I was not closed off but I needed proof as I am someone that needs ‘proof’ to believe. Because I could never refer, sell, promote or even suggest anything at all to others unless I know first hand that it is what it says it is. And it can do what it says it does. This is why we took it to Melbourne for the ‘marketing exercise’. It was more to gain ‘proof’ for us that it worked on more than the family circle. Because friends and family can sometimes be too kind. Too positive.

It doesn’t work 100% of the time on everyone. Sometimes it takes longer than 1 night, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes it has less effect on larger framed people, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes it doesn’t relieve the snoring totally but the wearer seems to gain a much restful sleep. Sometimes it may not work but I’m pretty sure there’s a money back guarantee in place for those.

But, and as I said this is out of my hands and most of the family’s now, and I really have better things to do than support anything my youngest brother is involved in.

And apart from whether Chinese/ Asian – Medicine/Therapy is claimed or unclaimed, proved or disproved, documented or not.

In my opinion, this is a bloody good, simple little ‘gadget’ and basically that’s it.

Thanks for you time.

David.

P.S. Please for your own true and honest ‘efficacy’, if you do have someone dear to you that suffers such a simple and common ailment please try, for your own benefit and your dearest, a simple test. Strap a couple of grains of rice or a small smooth object to the finger and see if there’s any change. As I said be careful not too cut off circulation though.